0.3/0.6mm nozzles setup not possible

Hello everyone, hello Zortrax team,

Today we received the new nozzles in 0.3. and 0.6mm for our M200 Plus directly from Poland.

Unfortunately we have just found out that in the brand new Z-Suite 2.81 the nozzles can only be selected in the setup for very few materials.

Not even for Z-ABS and third-party PLA this is configurable at the moment.

Honestly, I don’t understand why the absolute standard material (Z-ABS) is not considered first in the Z-Suite.

Will this change with the next Z-Suite update?

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Hey there!

This option is available only for Z-HIPS, Z-ULTRAT and HIPS-based materials profile for M200 Plus at the moment.

We are improving Z-SUITE with each release, so this option should be available for wider range of materials in the future, but we're not able to tell exactly when.

As always, we inform about new options when new Z-SUITE version is released, so stay tuned :)

Thanks for the information and sorry that I don't understand the order of materials for the implementation.

Please have a look at your own store:

https://store.zortrax.com/gb/parts-and-accessories/nozzle-set

 

Everyone, really EVERY customer, will assume that there are NO restrictions on the material.

I don't want to look rude, but if someone has as so much experience in business as you do, I don't understand why you don't communicate this correctly. If you are able to state: "dedicated for M200plus and M300plus" you can´t tell that it is not possible to name the available materials.

At this point it simply looks like you need to have a comparable nozzle set like "others".

I'm a little speechless...

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Is it possible to use the 0.3 mm nozzle for EXTERNAL materials?

Hey there!

WN20, I’m sorry to hear that you’re disappointed. We’re working to implement this option for all materials. We always inform about new options with Z-SUITE releases, 0.3 and 0.6 mm nozzle option was listed there with notice about availability for particular materials. I’ll pass your suggestion further.

Tobold, for M200 Plus and M300 Plus, HIPS-based materials can be printed with 0.3 and 0.6 mm nozzles.
For M200, ABS-based materials can be printed with 0.3 and 0.6 nozzles, PLA-based external materials can be printed with 0.6 nozzle.

Thanks for your reply.

I bought zortrax m200 plus specifically to print prusa mask handlings to support local hospitals. Sadly this takes forever on Zortrax. Having no option for external materials with 0.6 nozzle (2.12.1.0) makes it next to worthless as two pieces are taking about 7 hours, compared to 2 - 3 hours from competition.

This is important feature (even if in beta release) to add such support for different qualities on 0.6 Z materials AND to be able to use external materials with 0.6 nozzle.

As a side note, currently NONE of the external filaments support 0.6 nozzle which is totally not right if you advertise that your machine has 0.3, 0.4 and 0.6 nozzle support.

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Bonjour,
Je voudrais rajouter que les post concernant la limitation du setup des 0.6 nozzles date de plus d’un an.
Malgré les annonces de Zortrax, pas d’évolution dans la gamme de produit possible avec le 0.06.
Pire dans les anciennes release 2.7.1 il était possible de sélectionner du PLA externe avec du 0.6.
ce qui c’est plus possble dans les release 2.11 et 2.13 beta.
Est ce que Zortrax souhaite vraiment apporter une solution pour l’utilisation plus facile de la buse 0.6
Merci

2.12.2.0 has 0.6mm for pla and abs, I am currently using (would be nice for more materials).

Thank you, for this information, but I don’t find PLA and ABS (Zortrax or External material) in this version.
I’ve uninstall first the beta beta version I had already install, and install the 2.12.2.0 (MAC OS)
Do you Use MAc or Windows version
Best

I use windows, I haven’t checked mac version

I checked MacOS version and I see 0.6mm nozzle for PLA and ABS

Thanks for your check, I will re check by my side.

Hi,
You are right and me too.

when you choose the 3D printer
M200 : Zsuite 2.12.2 OK for 0.4 and 0.6 for PLA and ABS
M300 : Zsuite 2.12.2 KO for 0.6 PLA and ABS
M300 plus = Zsuite 2.12.2 KO for 0.6 PLA and ABS

idem for the new release
M200 : Zsuite 2.14 OK for 0.4 and 0.6 for PLA and ABS
M300 : Zsuite 2.14 KO for 0.6 PLA and ABS
M300 plus = Zsuite 2.14 KO for 0.6 PLA and ABS

Zortrax : The M200 profile are compatible with M300 and M300plus ?
Can you tranport this profile for new machine please.
thanks in advance.
Best regard.

Any Idea when .6 nozzles will be implemented for the M300 Plus for external ABS?

FYI, lack of this option is holding us back on purchasing another M300 plus.

Regards.

I’m very annoyed this still hasn’t been updated… I have an M300 Plus with a lot of extra options and now I can’t really use the machine as expected. Why are nozzles 0.3 and 0.6 not supported for more profiles? At least add them to the external materials and let people figure it out for themselves if they want to.

I didn’t buy the nozzles for HIPS or ZULTRAT :rage:

Hello, I was hoping this would finally get picked up.

Is there any chance we can get an update for this? Please add more options for external materials like 0.3 and 0.6 mm nozzles.

Version 2.23.0.0 still has no update in nozzle support for the M200 Plus. I saw M300 Dual received some updates in the meantime. Is it possible to get a statement from Zortrax concerning this? Support for Z-ABS and Z-ABS2 with 0.6 nozzle is most important to me.

Hi @HelanXC,

thank you for your feedback. Our specialists are aware that users would like to have more printing profiles for 0.3/0.6 mm nozzles available, however, please note that implementing such changes requires carrying out thorough and time-consuming tests to ensure that all settings have been tweaked as good as possible, in order to provide high quality prints. Our specialists are constantly working on providing new functions and adjustments, but unfortunately, we are unable to tell if more printing profiles for 0.3/0.6 mm will be available.

Thank you for your suggestions and understanding.

Best regards,
Karolina

Hello Karolina

I have done some checks and tests with Z-Suite, and the lack of 0.3mm and 0.6mm nozzle diameters for non-HIPS materials appears to be a limit in the software, not a missing profile.

The Z-Suite profiles are plain text files with the .cfg extension.
By comparing profiles for 0.4mm and 0.6mm HIPS, I can see that the only relevant differences are the NozzleDiameter and LayerThickness values, with a NozzleDiameter of 0 being 0.4mm and 2 being 0.6mm.
I modified these values for a PLA profile in notepad, then launched Z-Suite to see if it accepted the change, however it defaulted back to 0.4mm diameter and 0.14mm layer thickness.
This indicates that Z-Suite is coded to not accept other diameters for non-HIPS materials, instead of this being due to a missing profile.

This diameter limitation seems odd, given that changing nozzle diameters is a standard in competing software like IdeaMaker and the Zortrax M printers are slower than equivalent printers, so the speed increase that 0.6mm provides over 0.4mm would significantly increase their value.

Additionally, it seems like a mistake to advertise the printer with 0.6mm and 0.3mm capabilities but to then limit the diameter setting to HIPS and ULTRAT, especially as these are not frequently used materials, with PLA and ABS being more common.
I am no expect on advertising law, but advertising a printer with 0.3, 0.4 and 0.6mm capabilities, with most of those not being usable with most materials, seems like it could be false advertising.

Considering the above, can the nozzle diameter setting limit be removed?

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Any update from Zortrax on this? Just ended up in this nozzle mess myself.