Edit! “Made mistake about groove, deleted pic.”
Part leaves gaps at bottom surrounding small holes.
Stl file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipd2qxmyxq8bz7t/wheel_whole_1-9.STL
Edit! “Made mistake about groove, deleted pic.”
Part leaves gaps at bottom surrounding small holes.
Stl file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipd2qxmyxq8bz7t/wheel_whole_1-9.STL
I think you mix the concept of “rapid prototyping” with “rapid manufacturing”. Redesign your part so as to leave more space to infill, and with I know, that if I printed your part in Stratasys uPrint (cost $28k) which stands in the company where I work, will be printed much worse.
For places with support, treatment is indicated, so it would be cool to after you remove print from the platform all looked like the store - in this case, let’s go back to the beginning the meaning of the word “rapid prototyping”
When designing parts for 3D printing follow the rules which are used in the production within available of injection molds (and not those that cost more than my house) looking at the documents of injection mold design you should see what’s going on: http://www.plastics1.com/Articles/articles.php?Department=cim&article=62
Mike
I agree to some extent. But groove in top pic has nothing to do with it, have no clue why z-suit wedge in support like that.
[quote name=Michael]I think you mix the concept of “rapid prototyping” with “rapid manufacturing”.
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Nonsense. I’m sure this part would print without these problems on an Up/Afinia, and there’s no reason it should not print well on the Zortrax with better software.
julia
[quote name=Julia Truchsess][quote=Michael]I think you mix the concept of “rapid prototyping” with “rapid manufacturing”.
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Nonsense. I’m sure this part would print without these problems on an Up/Afinia, and there’s no reason it should not print well on the Zortrax with better software.
julia
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We have 7 pcs Afinia here. I made some tests on the printouts on Afinia and Zortrax. The print quality is the same, in a few cases Zortrax had better performance dimensions, and it was easier to remove the support and raft.
But I would like to see the print from your printer.
Mike
OK, off to the shop to print it now!
[quote name=Julia Truchsess]OK, off to the shop to print it now!
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Julia says she’ll take your challenge!
Wow! A print off!
[quote name=Martin Olchanowski]@Trhuster
Layer height, infill type, support Angle, print cooling % ?
Best Regards
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I used 0.19 layers, full infill, 20 degress support, 40% fan.
Printed on the Afinia in Fast speed, 0.25mm layer height, random third-party ABS at 230C, infill #2 (second lightest), no nozzle fan, 30 degree support. Print time including raft, 30 minutes. The print quality would be better at slower speed and smaller layer height (and maybe with Up ABS or Z-ABS) but this demonstrates how good the quality can be on fast speed for quick “proof” prints.
The strange gap/groove that the Zortrax software created between the wheel hub and flange is not present in the Up print. The gaps around the lug nut holes are present, but I think to a significantly lesser degree.
[quote name=Trhuster][quote=Martin Olchanowski]@Trhuster
Layer height, infill type, support Angle, print cooling % ?
Best Regards
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I used 0.19 layers, full infill, 20 degress support, 40% fan.
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20% fan as default is for solid CAD parts more air = more fast cooling = warping in your case.
Best Regards
[quote name=Martin Olchanowski][quote=Trhuster][quote=Martin Olchanowski]@Trhuster
Layer height, infill type, support Angle, print cooling % ?
Best Regards
[/quote]
I used 0.19 layers, full infill, 20 degress support, 40% fan.
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20% fan as default is for solid CAD parts more air = more fast cooling = warping in your case.
Best Regards
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The Zortrax/Z-Suite put a huge gap/groove between the hub and flange of Trhuster’s wheel. This has nothing to do with layers, infill, cooling, or warping. It is a software bug. imo.
EDIT: I take it back - the gap was in trhuster’s support material, not his part. Trhuster, you have embarrassed me
I made a mistake about groove, Zortrax support is too good for me. It was one layer still left too peel off! I am sorry about that, i will tell wife to punish me, i hope she does! Really!
But still gaps is kind off something that can be improved on.
[quote name=Martin Olchanowski][quote=Trhuster][quote=Martin Olchanowski]@Trhuster
Layer height, infill type, support Angle, print cooling % ?
Best Regards
[/quote]
I used 0.19 layers, full infill, 20 degress support, 40% fan.
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20% fan as default is for solid CAD parts more air = more fast cooling = warping in your case.
Best Regards
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Eh, i have no warp problem in this part. Part is perfect in that regard!
[quote name=Trhuster]I made a mistake about groove, Zortrax support is too good for me. It was one layer still left too peel off! I am sorry about that, i will tell wife to punish me, i hope she does! Really!
But still gaps is kind off something that can be improved on.
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Haha! Yes, that inner layer of support can be deceptive, Zortrax support looks so good you think it is the part! So show us a photo of the actual part now. And I think I will have to punish you too, because now I must go back and edit my posts and apologize to Zortrax for saying there is a software bug.
Here is new pic with ALL support removed. Wife is looking for the whip atm.
That’s better…
I too have noticed that on a thin walled part it won’t do (full) fill. I hope they get that fixed. If the space is larger than .4mm it should be able to fill it in.
I have had the same issues. I thought I would try something different and change the position of the object in the Zsuite. Heres some pics of laying down and standing up. Now the standing up one printed way better but the horror of trying to peel off the support was grrrrrr! lol Just gotta remember we are in Zortrax infancy.
Just a few more tweaks and the addition of polycarbonate profile and I may be able to start mass printing! woohoo! lol
Cheers hope this helps some.