Z-FLEX poor results

Hello,

A client asked for a part in TPU and I noticed I had Z-FLEX laying around and I forgot why I wasn’t using it. I used the standard Z-FLEX profile and I dont get good results, at first there were hairs all over the place, because of the seams.

Picture in the attached files, top is a competitor with Ninjaflex and proprietary filament. Bottom is Zortrax.

I still cant believe that the seams are not better calculated, I mean the print head doesn’t need to go all the way on the other side of the part to start a new layer, just start a new layer where the print head is at the moment if possible. I know its not always possible.

But I digress. So, I tuned the settings and I somewhat got better results, but there was still a big clump of filament where the seams are. Also, with the basic settings the support dont come off. on the pictures I just left the part of the supports that I would need to cut.

Shouldn’t the basic printing profile with the proprietary filament work perfectly ? What are your settings ? Project in the attached files.

Test_ZFLEX.zprojx (623.3 KB)

Hey, thanks for writing. Generally speaking, printing with any TPU material requires thorough drying. When it comes to prints with this material, there are many factors that could have influenced such results.
I’ll list a few, and you should consider these based on troubleshooting:

  • Device firmware version – download the latest one from 3D Printing Software and Firmware for Zortrax Machines | Zortrax Support Center
  • Slicer version: stable 3.6.1
  • The hotend should be new and not used with other high-temperature filaments like Z-ULTRA or ABS.
  • MOST IMPORTANT: Dry the Z-FLEX (TPU) at 50–60°C for 5–6 hours. It’s crucial to consider how long the filament has been stored, as you mentioned earlier, and if it wasn’t kept in proper conditions, that could be the issue. TPU is very sensitive to UV and moisture.

I print with flexible TPU from various manufacturers and don’t have issues. Even these materials are combined with glass fibers. However, the printer requires certain modifications.

If you’re still having problems, write here, and I’ll run some tests on my end to compare.

Hello,

Thanks for the quick answer. My TPU is always stored in bags with dry packs, its in a room with controlled humidity, its often down to 40% humidity and lower when printing. Anyway my NinjaFlex is oooooooooooooooold(3-4 years old), the Z-FLEX is probably 2 year younger than the Ninjaflex and the proprietary competitor finalement is probably 1 year old. I didn’t dry any of them for the tests.

All of them used a dirty nozzle that often print ABS and Nylon.

Anyway I will try to dry it and change the nozzle to see if it prints better. Can you print my project and post the picture before taking it off the plate? Maybe use a new Z-FLEX spool, use settings where the printhead move around, I want to see if it make hairs or clump with a new/dry spool.

Good day !

Hey, once I conduct the tests, I’ll send you the results. Please send me your STL files and the slicer settings TXT file.

There :

Grommet base CDB.stl (3.4 MB)

Application version: 3.6.0.0
Estimated print time: 2h 40m
Material usage: 9.07m (20g)
Printer: Zortrax M200 Plus
Profile: Last settings
Support type: Automatic
Support: 30°
Material: Z-FLEX
Nozzle diameter: 0.4 mm
Layer: 0.20 mm
Quality: High
Infill: 40%
Fan speed: Auto
Seam: Auto
Avoid overhangs: Yes
Outer contours: 0.00
Holes: 0.00
Inner contours Offset: 0.44
Surface layers Top: 6
Surface layers Bottom: 6
Support Lite: No
Smart bridges: Yes
Outer walls Number: 3
First layer Density: 100%
First layer Print speed: 100%
First layer Flow ratio: 100%
First layer Inner contours Offset: 0.44mm
First layer gap: 0.37 mm
Raft Enabled: Yes
Raft layers: 7
Platform-raft gap: 0.20 mm
Raft Density: 100%
Raft Print speed: 100%
Raft Flow ratio: 100%
Extrusion temp.: 230
Platform temp.: 50
Support Density: 2.50 mm
Gap XY: 0.16
Cooling tower: No
Print too thin walls: No

Hey, thanks a lot for your response. I’ll get back to you with feedback and results once I have them.

Best regards

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