Z-Glass

Support&troubleshooting
#1

Curious on how the software fix on the Z-Glass is coming along. I know y'all cant spend too much time on here and do work on the software at the same time so I haven't really pressed but I have a roll of Z-Glass that I wanted to start using and after two failed prints and being told it is a software issue I am curious.

I have the material offered for sale/use but if I cant print it then I ca't sell prints with it.. lol 

Is the software issue only related to Mac or does it span the Zsuite on both platforms?

Thanks

Appreciate the help.

Cheers

Update-I was able to successfully use zsuite for a Zglass Zcode using the shell mesh. Other meshes it doesnt finish the code just keeps working. I tried the mesh and it finished but the zcode displayed a vase as a closed object. 

#2

Ok. This is getting frustrating. Tried to print Zglass shell and it stopped again. Had to drill out the glass..AGAIN!

Hers a pic of what I walked in on. We really---I really- need a fix on this please. 

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#3

Does it clog the nozzle only or somewhere above?

#4

I dont think it clogs the nozzle. It just keeps feeding but the filament stays still. 

When I unload the filament it unloads and then gets stuck and I pull on the filament snapping it off. Then I have to pull the feed motor and drill down to get the filament out and load diff filament. After I drill and clear the tube I can load the new filament and it spits out the glass and the new zabs so I dont think it clogs the nozzle.

I think the Zglass i got, either has thin spots where the feed motor just spins on it or its a software issue like i was told but still no fix on it.

I have no problem with Zhips or Zabs, just Zglass. 

The zcode is fine, the stl file I use for zcode is fine but it just stops feeding at 20%. This time I didnt notice if the wheel was spinning to feed or just stopped. I know when it happened before it was trying to feed and wore the filament out in that spot at the wheel.

The wheel had Zglass in the spokes so I imagine it was still working. It might even be the filament is too thick as it looks much thicker than regular ZABS OR ZHIPS and it is getting stuck in the tube below the feeder. 

I dont know but it is pissin me off.

four prints and four fails with having to drill out the Zglass each time. 

#5

I dont think it clogs the nozzle. It just keeps feeding but the filament stays still. 

When I unload the filament it unloads and then gets stuck and I pull on the filament snapping it off. Then I have to pull the feed motor and drill down to get the filament out and load diff filament. After I drill and clear the tube I can load the new filament and it spits out the glass and the new zabs so I dont think it clogs the nozzle.

I think the Zglass i got, either has thin spots where the feed motor just spins on it or its a software issue like i was told but still no fix on it.

I have no problem with Zhips or Zabs, just Zglass. 

The zcode is fine, the stl file I use for zcode is fine but it just stops feeding at 20%. This time I didnt notice if the wheel was spinning to feed or just stopped. I know when it happened before it was trying to feed and wore the filament out in that spot at the wheel.

The wheel had Zglass in the spokes so I imagine it was still working. It might even be the filament is too thick as it looks much thicker than regular ZABS OR ZHIPS and it is getting stuck in the tube below the feeder. 

I dont know but it is pissin me off.

four prints and four fails with having to drill out the Zglass each time. 

I agree.. I gave up after 2 test prints. Just checked diameter. Same as Z-ABS 1.79  Mine clogged in the feed tube before the nozzle both times.

#6

That sucks. I guess I hold off on getting that stuff for now....

#7

Just measured different parts of the spool and it fluctuates from 1.70 to 1.82

I believe that isnt suppose to happen. 

Just used an old hot end set up and ran the filament through with no issues but I dunno about the tube below the feeder and I really dont feel like pulling my machine apart to test it.

#8

Bonjour,

1.70 a 1.75mm (sur 2 Mètres testé) pour moi.

je n'est pas eu de problème d'avance,

mais seulement des problèmes d'impressions.

#9

for now, no problem with z-glass, all perfect prints and large:

always used the thickness 0.19 mm

speed normal

infil / light and medium

support lite / yes and no

print cooling auto

seam random and normal

Note

wrapping the wire spool

I found the thread that was not tightly wound on the spool (type a weave),

could block the rotation and loading nozzle print.

#10

Got an email the other day saying they are releasing a new zsuite to fix this problem. Guess they hit a snag but hopefully it should be out in the next day---I mean week or two. lol

#11

Ok so I sent a bug tracker for freezing Zsuite but now since the update I am trying to print a Zglass vase but the display is going all wonky. lol

Took forever to give a solid Zglass zcode and can't look at it to make sure but I did get Zsuite to do a Shell zcode for a vase in Zglass.

Curious if anyone has printed lately with Zglass and whether shell is the way to go or can it print with Solid infill?

Thanks

Doing a test print on a small object in zglass to see. Just thought someone might have insights. Cheers 

#12

Solid object came out nice. Wasn't hard to remove raft either. When I print something non proprietary I will post. lol

So I guess its just a frame rate display issue with Zsuite why larger complex objects are hard to get codes and display them. Good to know. 

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#13

It's temperature related the material it's too hot it melts and then it cant'e be feeded.

Due to its amorphous nature it happens this.

We have been working with Tritan and Tglase from taulman for a while and both materials are similar but with specific differences.

Tritan stats a printing temperature of 275°C quite high for most printers

And T-glase is just around 228 °C

In both cases a 5°C difference makes a significant change in material behaviour

For example on ninja felx you get the same issue print too hot and it will  melt inside the nozzle so it will stop feeding, the exact same that happens with zglass.

Also retraction is a factor, for some materials retraction has to be higher.

#14

Went to print a larger shell object today and the stepper feed motor kept clicking so I take it the software issue is only have fixed regarding ZGlass.  

Bummer