Interesting. 3DProshare is offering a buy one, get one 50% off sale on M200's.

Zortrax M200 General Discussion
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Not posting this as a plug, though I suppose it's one hell of a deal if you're in the market for a printer farm, but it does make me question the M200's future. While I acknowledge they're probably just clearing out warehouse space for Inventures, running a 50% discount sounds less like "some extra space would be nice" and more like "EVERYTHING MUST GO RIGHT NOW!"

So, do you guys think the M200 may be discontinued in the near future? If that's the case, do you think the M200 will be replaced with a new model or do you think Zortrax will only sell Inventures going forward?

And if the M200 is being discontinued, do you think there's any chance Zortrax will finally let us use G-Code with it?

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Where do you see this half off? I'm on their site and I must be missing something.

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Hi,

For sure m200 will be discontinued one day, but not soon and not because of Inventure, they do not target same market imo. What could killed m200 are clones, as Duplicator 6 by Wanhao, because of price and because and the non limited materials

But I think m200 will be supported still for some because some people are looking for reliability first, and i must say that m200 + z-ultra give very good results for me, each time, with same quality.

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Doubt the m200 will have a significant discount like that.. probably none at all (in the long term). m200 is still the #1 printer available for what it does for the price.. Inventure looks like it will probably be great and definitely will be useful, but I don't think it really replaces the m200 (m200 is $1000 cheaper, larger build platform and many more materials).

As for the Wanhao, unlikely the mechanics will be the same quality as the Zortrax, However, even if the same, they wont have the software/firmware and tested materials the Zortrax has.... and that's where most of the magic happens.

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Where do you see this half off? I'm on their site and I must be missing something.

http://m.imgur.com/JVDXRB5

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I just purchased two m200's last week....major bummer....kinda ticked

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Try emailing them. Might get lucky.

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Doubt the m200 will have a significant discount like that.. probably none at all (in the long term). m200 is still the #1 printer available for what it does for the price.. Inventure looks like it will probably be great and definitely will be useful, but I don't think it really replaces the m200 (m200 is $1000 cheaper, larger build platform and many more materials).

As for the Wanhao, unlikely the mechanics will be the same quality as the Zortrax, However, even if the same, they wont have the software/firmware and tested materials the Zortrax has.... and that's where most of the magic happens.

Having bought a Wanhao, I can assure you that "piece of @#%&" is a kind description at best.

They won't discontinue the M200 unless they have suddenly gotten suicidal tendencies.

More like they've gotten cashflow difficulties trying to get their Inventure to work.

I've also just received an email offering a free M200 if I buy a ton of their filamet, so there's something going on.

I think a taller M200 (M400, twice as tall) would have been a good seller, and a more economically sound venture as a lot of parts from the M200 could have been used.

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"I've also just received an email offering a free M200 if I buy a ton of their filamet, so there's something going on."

.... how much filament? Ive bought something near to $1k worth in the last week.

I agree about a taller M200.... I almost went the Ultimaker 2+ extended route. If they had a dual extruder m200 extended....

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I just saw that as well purchase 56 spools of material and receive a free M200

"The bundle includes 56 spools of Zortrax Materials and a Zortrax M200 3D Printer.

Pay only for the materials and get Zortrax M200 completely for free!

The pack of materials includes: 

28 spools of Z-ABS - 5x Yellow, 5x Red, 5x Blue, 5x Warm Grey, 8x Pure White

3 spools of Z-GLASS Transparent

3 spools of Z-PETG Black

3 spools of Z-HIPS Grey

18 spools of Z-ULTRAT - 3x Green, 2x Yellow, 2x Red, 2x Blue, 2x Pastel Pink, 3x Pastel Yellow, 2x Neon Orange, 2x Nude

1 spools of Z-PCABS Ivory"

$2,030.00

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Looks like you guys beat me to reporting the 56-spool promo. This could mean a couple different things:

1) Zortrax needs to raise some money urgently and their markup on 56 spools of filament is enough to offset the cost of an M200.

2) The M200 is being replaced and it will use filament cartridges like the Inventure. Spools will become obsolete and therefore have to be sold quickly.

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overall weight is 86 KG, they add another 300 Euros for shipping inside Europe!

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I just saw that as well purchase 56 spools of material and receive a free M200

"The bundle includes 56 spools of Zortrax Materials and a Zortrax M200 3D Printer.

Pay only for the materials and get Zortrax M200 completely for free!

The pack of materials includes: 

28 spools of Z-ABS - 5x Yellow, 5x Red, 5x Blue, 5x Warm Grey, 8x Pure White

3 spools of Z-GLASS Transparent

3 spools of Z-PETG Black

3 spools of Z-HIPS Grey

18 spools of Z-ULTRAT - 3x Green, 2x Yellow, 2x Red, 2x Blue, 2x Pastel Pink, 3x Pastel Yellow, 2x Neon Orange, 2x Nude

1 spools of Z-PCABS Ivory"

$2,030.00

wow.... got royally screwed on buying my recent setup.

This deal was also from 3dproshare?  Looks like direct from Zortrax

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Looks like you guys beat me to reporting the 56-spool promo. This could mean a couple different things:

1) Zortrax needs to raise some money urgently and their markup on 56 spools of filament is enough to offset the cost of an M200.

2) The M200 is being replaced and it will use filament cartridges like the Inventure. Spools will become obsolete and therefore have to be sold quickly.

I'd like to think it's a combination of cash flow and selling down stocks of filament in colors that don't sell so well.

While I'm fine with their closed source software, it will be a snowy day in hell when I accept a machine with non standard spools.

If that is indeed their plan, it's a really bad one, as I've never seen any of the machines that came out with specialized spools last on the market for very long at all.

Zortrax management! Are you out there??

Here's a suggestion...

Keep the M200 and build a taller version, maybe call it the M400.

So many parts/tooling would be common to both machines...soooooo much easier than a new (and smaller I understand) machine.

Make a proper hepa filtered exhaust hood that is common for both.

Keep your software closed (it is very good after all).

Supply a Z-PLA. You've been asked so many times surely you realize that's what people want, and with recent health concerns about ABS you may be losing sales by not doing so.

Lower the price of your specialty filaments to say 20% higher than the Z ABS. The Z ABS price is fine and it prints nicest, but the specialty filament prices are silly expensive. Rather than offer giveaways, just sell them cheaper and sell more printers.

Offer a parts only warranty outside the EU, maybe through a dealer authorisation/request form. Bugger all goes wrong with them, it won't cost much and you'll improve your reputation big time.

Employ me as your new CEO, and I'll present your quality machinery to the world in a way that doesn't suggest you come from a different planet and alienates your potential and existing customers.

I'll accept a 25% cut on your current guys salary, but will need a lucrative bonus on future growth.

You're welcome.

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Oh....I bought your special today by the way.

To good to resist, as a lot of my products are for engineering and color is not an issue.

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Oh....I bought your special today by the way.

To good to resist, as a lot of my products are for engineering and color is not an issue.

Yeah I think i'm with you on this and going to pull the trigger too..  Reality is that I'll need filament, and a lot of my work is color independent like you.... so might as well buy it now (even though Ill be way over budget atm).

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Double check: This is only available via Zortrax.com right? and not any of the USA distributors? I ask because shipping is over $500 from Zortrax.com.

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Yes, it's only through them direct.

As well as leaving their Aussie dealers to hold the can on warranty, they undercut them as well.

But for me it was a deal I couldn't pass, and there was only 20 left when I took it.

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I've little time to experiment these days, however my hunch is that for whatever die is added to the Z-ABS ABS, they all appear to print slightly differently.  I've gotten the best prints in white, blue, and red.  However i've seen black be great and the same print have more issues.  It's impossible to pin down as it's over time and over time things change.  However I've always wondered how much the color of the ABS affects the print if at all.

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Yes, it's only through them direct.

As well as leaving their Aussie dealers to hold the can on warranty, they undercut them as well.

But for me it was a deal I couldn't pass, and there was only 20 left when I took it.

Thanks, ordered.   I think the stock # is set to 20, rather than being actual.

I am surprised about the undercutting too. Most USA distributors wont carry an item without a pricing agreement restricting direct sale undercuts, but I think it's likely Zortrax had to do it to get the Inventure ready....which is probably likely better for distributors anyway