Z-ABS for M300 ???

Hello all

Whybz-ABS for M300 doesnt exist ??

Thx

Because ABS warps too much, especially for large objects. Larger build plate = massive warping. 

Yes but i can print little object on my m300 no ?

Can i use M200materials ???

I think because its a plug and play printer it needs to be idiot proof. 

It would be nice if the z-suit for the M300 would allow the use of all the available Zortrax filaments, even if it only allowed limited size items in ABS. If the M300 could print everything a M200 could the printer would be very practical 3D printer but as it is it becomes a very specialised, limited use printer.

Even if the M300 would accept a file generated for the M200 and only allow the M200 object size that could be printed in Ultrat or ABS the printer would be a better option to own than the M200. 

I wonder if anybody dared to test yet if an m300 would swallow the ZCode created for an m200. The ZCode itself is compatible of course (letting aside the maximum dimensions), the only difference is the hardware version in the header. So I guess that an m300 probably rejects ZCode created for an m200 and vice versa, but you never know.

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I wonder if anybody dared to test yet if an m300 would swallow the ZCode created for an m200. The ZCode itself is compatible of course (letting aside the maximum dimensions), the only difference is the hardware version in the header. So I guess that an m300 probably rejects ZCode created for an m200 and vice versa, but you never know.

Nobody of Zortrax official Team here ???

ABS and ULTRAT have too big shrinkage to use it on M300. I'm aware that smaller prints could be printed without problems but want to avoid questions, photos, negative voices all over the Internet about faulty ABS / ULTRAT prints done on M300. 

@Marcin

Well, there would be some simple solutions like limiting the build space to m200 dimensions for Z-ABS/Z-ULTRAT.

@Carbon1

Patching the header would be easy, but I'm sure the Zortrax team wouldn't be happy.

Anyone can open a zcode file with text editor and send the content her ??

ZCode is a binary format with checksums for each command and the header.

Still...

On a second thought, patching the header is not even needed. One could slice the same model for m200/Z-ABS and m300/Z-HIPS (or whatever) and replace the header in the m200 ZCode with the m300 one.

ABS and ULTRAT have too big shrinkage to use it on M300. I'm aware that smaller prints could be printed without problems but want to avoid questions, photos, negative voices all over the Internet about faulty ABS / ULTRAT prints done on M300. 

However you also risk ridicule being the only desktop 3D printer ( I can find) not able to print in either ABS or PLA. 

As someone who would benefit by the M300's larger build envelope (printing multiple small Z-ABS items) I would think a "stern warning" dialog box within Z-Suite would suffice for the removal of quality liability WITHOUT excluding those of us that would benefit from the ability to use Z-ABS. My 2 cents........

As someone who would benefit by the M300's larger build envelope (printing multiple small Z-ABS items) I would think a "stern warning" dialog box within Z-Suite would suffice for the removal of quality liability WITHOUT excluding those of us that would benefit from the ability to use Z-ABS. My 2 cents........

The slicer could even analyze the model's geometry and decide whether or not to "allow" Z-ABS printing :)

Based on my personal experience HIPS warps about the same as Ultrat (when printing larger wall structures on M200). I would expect people to complain about HIPS on the M300, too... 

These two are also rated the same ("low" warpage) on the Zortrax homepage. So why is HIPS ok and Ultrat isn't?

Yeah, I tried HIPS once and it warped like a mofo. Never understood its supposed "low warpage" property, although I can see that it has a nice surface finish.

Yeah, I tried HIPS once and it warped like a mofo. Never understood its supposed "low warpage" property, although I can see that it has a nice surface finish.

Same here, printed two identical parts, one Z-ABS the other Z-HIPS, warping was the same. Never used Z-HIPS since that, just ABS.

I have had warping issues with Z-HIPS. I do have some jobs that will warp in Z-ABS but not with Z-Ultrat. I have played around with the jobs that have warped in Z-HIPS and changed the settings or the orientation (depending on the job) and re-printed with no warp. 

I do prefer to print in Ultrat, it would be nice to be able to print in Z-Ultrat on the M300

Bear in mind that PLA (PHA) is coming on both M200/M300.