Not yet but I will. I just feel like it is going to be something simple like that or I wouldn't be able to get a print at all. Thanks
I just made the suggested checks/adjustments Julia. What do you think would be a "normal" approximate extruder heatup time? Is there a range or a typical?
I'm not near a printer right now so I can't actually time it, but I estimate 3-5 minutes.
I started "timing" when it hit 98% and it's been 10 min sofar.
Maybe you have a bad heater or thermocouple. It should be 3-5 minutes from cold.
Based upon what I've read sofar I'm beginning to think so.
Just started printing. From the time extruder temp indicated 98% it took 37 minutes and 48 seconds.
3-5 minutes would be VERY nice. Major difference.
Just started printing. From the time extruder temp indicated 98% it took 37 minutes and 48 seconds.
This is not normal; something is defective and you shouldn't have to struggle with it on a brand-new $2,000 machine. I suggest you contact your reseller for warranty service.
I did but it was yesterday so I won't hear anything until tomorrow. I appreciate your help with this.
I just opened a new printer with v2 hot end, and although I didn't time it it also got to around 98% and then took at least another 5-10 min. Way longer than any other machine. I get the feeling this is becoming the norm, not the exception.
I just got a message from support with these pictures attached. I intend to perform this and see what occurs. They said" "It's most likely caused by aluminum oxide that left in holes shown on picture." Will post results.
I have noticed, by accident, the following:
After waiting over 5 hours for the printer to begin, (staying stuck at 98%), I powered down and relocated the printer head to better inspect it for lack of anything else to do. Finding nothing visually wrong with anything I could see, I powered back up and selected the model and, while not VIOLIA!, it began to print after about 35-45 minutes @ 98%. Humm.... I began powering down and moving the print head to the right middle about 2" from the wall/rail on right and got the same results. I tested again last night. I began the print from the park position and it never started. I shut down and began from previously indicated position and printing began within indicated time frame.
That would speak more for a damaged ribbon cable… But even 35 min is still faaaar to long. Try the cleaning of the holes as suggested by Zortrax.
I’m already annoyed by the 4 or 5 min from cold that my printer needs… Even 10 min is unacceptable (for the hotend alone).
Looks like there are certain printers that are running borderline at or out of the tolerance ranges… Hardware does not do what firmware/controller expects…
Just timed it: 3:35 from cold to "unload filament", using V2 feed tube mounted on V1 block. I do have a V2 curved block for my other M200 but haven't installed it yet.
Wow! Never gotten that and it's brand new.
I had contacted the Z-Support about this last week but I have been too busy to even check the forums as I would normally over the last week and a half. They suggested to me that I clean out the holes on the extruder block, I could not find any tube brushes in our tool collection or in any tool store. Apparently they are hard to come by, so I ordered some online and they should be in today. I have 4 hot-ends to "fix" being that they all have the 98% heating issue, so I will have a good test pool to try out. Ill update you guys later.
-Michael
Earlier today I have completed the recommendation regarding cleaning out the holes in the extruder block. I have plenty of those type of brushes in my gun cleaning kit. I reassembled and checked everything. I then performed a filament reload, times were:
Loading from cold start:
4:47 minutes to get to 98%
4:22 from 98% to get to Load
13:37 minutes total time
I then selected a model, (a small hinge about the size of the center square).
Times:
bed heatup not measured but approximately 6 minutes
Extruder heating, (still warm from just performing a filament load. Began at about 54%):
4:35 to get to 98%
Timer is now at 1:01:38, (yep that's over an hour), still at 98% and nothing.
Have a call into Octave and am awaiting a return call.
I finally aborted the first attempt after 1:06 minutes. Turned off the printer. Relocated printer head to center & 2" from right "wall", turned printer back on and
started timer at 98%, (which only took about 2 minutes to arrive at). @ 21 minutes and 19 seconds the print finally began. I have no idea what this means. I stumbled upon this accidentally when I had repositioned the head to do a visual inspection and this “seemingly” has made a difference? I don’t expect this kind of hassle for $2K. I’m jealous of all those people that have one that works correctly.
Today I did some maintenance and measured the heating time too.
It was 3:50 from a cold machine (off for some hours) until withdrawal of filament started (I did a filament unload).
It's an gen 4 M200 with V2 hotend (as delivered from Zortrax with curved block). Replaced the V1 hotend, still using old TC and heater cartridge.
I finally aborted the first attempt after 1:06 minutes. Turned off the printer. Relocated printer head to center & 2" from right "wall", turned printer back on and
started timer at 98%, (which only took about 2 minutes to arrive at). @ 21 minutes and 19 seconds the print finally began. I have no idea what this means. I stumbled upon this accidentally when I had repositioned the head to do a visual inspection and this “seemingly” has made a difference? I don’t expect this kind of hassle for $2K. I’m jealous of all those people that have one that works correctly.
have you tried the other proposals mentioned here? tightening the screws, repositioning the heater and sensors, and checking if moving gently the cables while at 98% has any impact on time needed for this extra 2%?